Why is shipping so important? Flooring that arrives beaten up and broken is unacceptable, but it happens when shippers are less than careful. However, our system ensures that our clients have more than enough boards to complete their project.

Shipping to protect your floors

When the customers satisfaction is job one, it is easy, just send more than they buy! Beware any company with”shipping pine nationwide” claims, ask plenty of questions. How do they protect the tongue and groove? What about damages during forklift transfers or overage, 10%? Ask questions, we can help.

Shipping with useful wall and top

Interesting enough, with 10% overage we have a 100% coverage guarantee based on the way in which our floors arrive to the customer. Of course, but having enough is really at issue, right? If we pack your floor with 1 x 8 #2 southern pine, those boards serve two purpose(s). Protect and practice; make sure the walls absorb any possible damage versus T/G.

Practice makes perfect

Shipping an intact pallet means the excess can become a mud room or practice boards, for example. Having too many boards, way better than the alternative! With our Longleaf Pine or boards with character such as #2 common white oak, having more than enough allows far more customization.

10 Apr

Best Pine Floors

Our favorite Finishes

The best Southern Pine floor depends on the buyer. For example, there are some people who want knots, but just not “too many of them”. Rustic does not equate to defects or that many knots. In our #2 grade, for example, would be called heart pine when purchased in a package or from a box store. If a customer wants zero knots, we have that grade with our (c and better) clear grade southern pine.

7″ wide plank Mill Run Heart Pine finished in 7-10′ lengths.

Get a sample

Southern Yellow Pine Direct is your local source for the best pine floors along with the best pine flooring prices. However, we are so much more than just flooring. Custom stairs, lap siding, gap siding, post, and beams, shipped directly to your job site. SYP Direct works with your contractor if you purchase your own materials. The best pine floors rarely found within bundled services, why? Simple, the “best for you” are solid real wood which most take too much time. However, the length of floor provides clues to the origins, i.e. the mill. Say no to bundled services, contract your own floors. SYP Direct provides all the support you need to convince or find a new installer.

Why does SYP Direct have the best pine floors?

The best pine floors, the best pine flooring prices and customer service beyond compare. An A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau, in our business, tells you all you need to know about the best pine floors. The best considers, price, % floors returned, quality (i.e. waste factor) and other variables based on where you live. Never do we misrepresent our flooring, in fact educating our buyers is part of our day to day business. We are polite and operate with a transparency that shocks most first-time callers, “we seem too good to be true” has been said on many occasions.

Best pine floors

A + BBB

SYP Direct Pine Flooring Reviews

At SYP Direct we are proud of our pine flooring reviews, we earned our A+ Better Business Bureau rating. So when we see large companies not playing by the rules we get upset, but we have discovered a new low. Purchasing pine flooring reviews and likes while completely suppressing actual customer reviews. Big deal? Search engines use reviews to rank, Google certainly places importance on them when they are Google reviews!

How do the purchase reviews? Not in name, but through a third party ‘management’ company who orchestrates the entire social media search charade. Ask them for a local review, a happy client who might share a photo perhaps? Clover Lea pine floors from Lumber Liquidators has a 4.5 star review, nonsense. Do your research but ask questions locally, do not rely on the public relations firm of a billion dollar company repairing a terrible reputation for dishonest practices.

Built by Customer Service

Read the reviews, the thread is customer service along with the best pine floors. SYP Direct is not magic, things do go wrong, but we fix them. Customer service is the same with 200 to 2000 square feet, furthermore, we are willing educate our clients. In fact, we validate what they know to be true, that real wood is better than fake. Going to bat for the homeowner is not over and above, it is what we do every day. Furthermore, we do increase the ‘best pine flooring prices’ on smaller orders.

Wide Plank 1 x 10 New Heart Pine

03 Apr

Red Lodge Montana

Walls and Other

Southern Yellow Pine Direct Welcomes Red Lodge Montana to our list of cities in Big Sky Country.

Montana is a western state defined by its diverse terrain ranging from the Rocky Mountains to the Great Plains. Its wide-open spaces include Glacier National Park, a vast wilderness preserve that passes into Canada. The park’s many snow-capped peaks, lakes and alpine hiking trails are showcased along its famed Going-to-the-Sun Road, stretching 50 miles. Montana is also home to one of our favorite customers, check their photos out and you will see why! Pioneer Log and Timber of MT has been using SYP Direct for new pine since 2017 and we have been using their photos and bragging since day one. Check out the site by clicking on the photo to the right and you will understand why we are proud to call them a customer.

Pioneer Log and Timber

Montana lodge using southern yellow knotty on the walls

Red Lodge Montana

Nestled in Montana’s magnificent Beartooth Mountains and surrounded by Custer Gallatin National Forest, Red Lodge delivers world-class outdoor recreation and access to Yellowstone National Park via the world-renowned Beartooth Highway. Cruise down Broadway Avenue as you check out the downtown locally owned shops, restaurants, and entertainment. And if snow skiing is your passion, Red Lodge Mountain is Montana skiing, pure and simple. We urge you to visit this website for more information on skiing Red Lodge and the photo to find out more about the city.

Shipping your floors

At southern yellow pine direct we do not use the phrase nationwide shipping as a marketing term. Red Lodge Montana is 1600 miles from our mill, in other words not a short trip. Furthermore, the 12’ pallets each weigh up to 3000 lbs., so they are not light either. SYP Direct has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau. We take shipping very seriously, anyone can sell floors, delivering it is the problem. Great floors that arrive beat up are not really that great. Our experience and diligent customer service allow us to give you a 100% coverage promise, we protect your floors. In fact, no matter if you live Southern Yellow Pine Direct is local. For a free estimate with sample, contact us today. Lead time helps us get you exactly what you want but didn’t think you could afford.

More about SYP Direct

What about SYP Direct makes us so unique? Southern Yellow Pine Direct aka SYP Direct is the only true online pine flooring mill. Furthermore, our mill partnership (s) allows us to manufacture using custom specifications aka milled to specs or milled to order. Milled to order is really big deal. How so? Nothing is sitting around on a shelf waiting to be matched with another run, weeks later. Every board of your floor comes from the same timber which is milled all together creating a continuity important to the look and the ease of installation.

Southern Yellow Pine Direct is the homeowner’s resource for the best pine flooring from Red Lodge Montana to New Orleans. However, we are so much more than just a source for floors. In fact, SYP Direct works with your contractor if you are purchasing your own materials. Do not get stuck with ‘bundled’ services, finish and installation does not have to include the floors. Why should you be held captive? To find out more about SYP Direct– contact us now.

1x8x12' Mill Run New Heart Pine

Finish to order

3/4 x 6 7/8 x 12′ unfinished Mill Run New Heart Pine. We have 3600 square feet available now; choose your finish with options such as Monocoat and Bona.

Southern Pine Direct

Southern pine floors from montana and other states

Montana (2022 update)

The original Red Lodge Montana, Pioneer Log and Timber post posted in 2019, or so. As one the founders of SYP Direct, our BBB A+ rated little company has become more unique with each passing year. Unique quality, pricing and customer service, the latter of which will be un-matched. 100% satisfaction which means 100% coverage guaranteed.

Local installers found for diy customers

Local Pine Installers

he family was using a local installer, who assured them he had worked with Knotty Pine several times. As you will see, the local install professional is key to “non DIY” customers.

Real Wood Floors

Real Wood floors an investment that provides real returns, versus a single use floor such as laminate or engineered wood. Single-use floor covers, investment in your local floor covers and carpet store, but not your home.

California shipping is nothing compared to shipping to Hawaii

16 Aug

Problems to address before Shipping

Wood Floor Shopping, Customer Bill of Rights

Gated Community

Gate codes, overhead powerlines, gravel road, bridges; no detail is too small. Why? Because commercial shipping companies charge for everything. If there is some type of last-minute change or “surprises” they can abort the delivery and take your pallet back to the terminal. Does not sound too bad until you get the redelivery charge. Think of LTL carriers as ‘land-pirates,’ they can, if they so choose, hold your floors for ransom

Damages- Inspect the boards

Note any damages, no matter how small, on that release they have you sign. This must be done at delivery – you cannot call the terminal later & say you found damage. Documenting damages on the release form allows you to take delivery, then access any damages. Once you open it up – if there is real damage, we can get a detailed inventory & file an official claim, if you document the damages on the release.

Be There, please be there!

Be there when the floors arrive. The driver is not going to wait and certainly will not off=load your floors. Herein lies the difficulty with residential delivery, the catch if you will. SYP Direct floors are long, and they are heavy, so lift-gates are hardly ever an option. In plain language, the floors must be off-loaded by (your) hand and or your equipment.

The good news?

Only about 5% of deliveries have any type of issue because our team addresses them upfront. After 10 years we navigate all of it for you, until the delivery (residence). You become the boss, so we impower you to handle the role if necessary. And more importantly, our A+ BBB rating tells you what you need to know about SYP Direct. Homeowners, we are your advocate and can be trusted to make things right 100% of the time.

22 Jun

Delivery and Shipping

Wood Floor Shopping, Customer Bill of Rights

The best real wood floors are heart pine

01 Oct

Waste Factor

Finish and Install

How much extra wood flooring should I order, what is the waste factor? Two questions we get during the first call or at least the first time we quote a price. When comparing floors, the first question you need to ask, how much extra I should order? The reason, 10% is normal and anything different indicates something out of the ordinary. For example, if someone tells you need to order 600 square feet when you need to cover 500 there is an issue. The only time to exceed 10% is with tavern or cabin (#3) grades or with very small wide plank orders.

Waste factor

The waste factor is not all about defects, in fact the defects cuts outs should never equal more than 10%. Unfinished real wood flooring is not like sticking down a laminate or clicking together an engineered floor the boards are large they are heavy and towards the edges of the room often require cutting. The cut outs cut offs, cut arounds and everything that does not become floor, designated the waste factor. The one exception would be a small order of 1x10x12 which has almost 8 square feet per board. If you mess up too many of those during install and your order is small, you have a problem.

Reasons to go above 10%

A small amount of wood means a small number of boards , errors or more important or avoiding them is more important to be more accurate. Just imagine for a minute if you want to order 400 square feet of 1 x 8 x 12, with waste 440 square feet. Each board contains 6.875 or essentially 7 sq feet per board, so the order contains 64 boards. So that, every board really counts.

All floors including covers have a waste factor

It may come as no shock that we are not fans of engineered or laminate flooring, we refer to them as covers. In fact, you do not buy a floor cover, you lease it. One step further, that leased cover ends up in a landfill with the chemicals which created them, and the ones used to stick them down. But I digress, back to the waste factor which like taxes everyone has to address them. A waste factor is about the skill off the installer, the quality of the materials and the shape in which the arrive.

waste factor

How many square feet per board

1 x 4 x 8 = 2.08 sq ft

1 x 4 x 10 = 2.60 sq ft

1 x 4 x 12= 3.125 sq ft

1 x 6 x 8 = 3.42 sq ft

1 x 6 x 8 = 3.42 sq ft

1 x 6 x 10 = 4.27 sq ft

1 x 6 x 12 = 5.125 sq ft

1 x 8 x 8 = 4.58 sq ft

1 x 8 x 10 = 5.73 sq ft

1 x 8 x 12 = 6.875 sq ft

1 x 10 x 8 = 5.83 sq ft

1 x 10 x 10 = 7.29 sq ft

1 x 10 x 12 = 8.75 sq ft

Shipping wood floors

We ship flooring all over the United States, literally that is not marketing. When we ship 1800 miles, 4 pallets weighing 3000 lbs each our biggest concern are the ¼ in edges we call tongue and groove. Many customers do not fully grasp that real wood is long and heavy but should not be manhandled because of those connections that we call the tongue and groove. Remember, our amazing floors and price mean nothing without true delivery cost; i.e. the amount it takes to complete the job.For more on how we protect your order and keep the waste factor below 10% let us hear from you today.

Special Pricing Mill Run Heart Pine

June 6th 2021- Southern Yellow Pine Direct has 5200 sq ft. of 1 x 8 x 12′ Mill Run Heart Pine waiting for you to choose your finish. Choose from 12 standard colors, as well as luxury brands such as Bona, Monocoat and WOCA. For more information contact us right now, first come first serve.

23 Jul

Wyoming and Montana Southern Pine

Walls and Other

Two similarities in Wyoming and Montana residents, love of our Southern Pine floors and very easy to deal with as customers. To be clear, we understand the difference between Wyoming and Montana about as well as their residents understand the difference between Alabama and Tennessee but we know pine. Ask the question what is the first thing that pops into your mind when you hear WY or MT? Southerners would answer cowboys or Yellowstone. Folks from WY and MT, probably Country Music and NASCAR. As an LSU fan, Louisiana born and raised, yes, leaving out football was intentional. The differences may be subtle, however the common characteristics are easy to identify.

Kimmerer WY

Residents from both states are laid back and easy to talk with about anything, not just cowboys. In fact, there seems to be some southern accent with some residents. Kimmerer WY 2020, “it shore is purtty”, of course he wrote this to us in hopes we would understand, very funny LM. The bunk bed photo goes along with this same customer, he is right though it is pretty. The floors are 7” Longleaf Heart Pine with Bona Natural clear high traffic, very nice.

Love these helmets

University of Wyoming

The University of Wyoming Cowboys

Whoa, not Wyoming or Montana Cowboys rather the U of WY located Laramie and founded in 1866. If you are not familiar with their helmets you are not a college football fan, they are classic. Nothing against the Grizzly or on the helmets of the University of Montana but that Cowboy just stays with you after having played against them many years ago. One Cowboy alumni and our first builder from Wyoming and Montana, enjoys reminding me of this from time to time.

Pioneer Log and Timber of Montana

Pioneer Log and Timber, a Montana customer we brag about, all the time. Why not? Visit the website and the fog will lift. MT log and timber, uses the type of materials we have specially milled per project requirements, both floors and walls. The obvious implication, if our company fits with PLT of Montana you should feel pretty good about our products. Yes, we confirm our implication while extending an offer to prove it.

Ask us about the finish

Wyoming and montana resident love rustic southern pine — Prefinished Bona Natural

Shipping cost to WY and MT

From New Orleans to Butte Montana, 2085 miles, and those floors originate in Honduras. Alabama is closer but , yes shipping costs exist. Alabama Heart Pine grows in Alabama, any Southern Pine has shipping cost to WY and MT even if seconds from a lumber yard. However, shipping costs represent part of the mill to customer process, normally they do not connect directly. SYP Direct allows residents in Wyoming and Montana to purchase mature southern pine in long lengths without removing one of the most important characteristics, price. In other words, shipping costs to WY and Montana, not prohibitive. You can get the floor that belongs in your home forever. Yes forever, we sell the kind of pine that someone will reclaim one day making Grizzlies and Cowboys happy.

The Caribbean in Cheyenne

In March of 2018, we sent Caribbean Heart Pine to Cheyenne Wyoming. Our customer chose the 5″ rustic grade, with knots and a minimum of 85% heart pine content, aka heart content. SYP Direct shipped our first Southern Pine floors to Wyoming and Montana in 2014 but this was our first shipment of Caribbean Heart Pine, which we began offering in 2016. Rustic Caribbean Heart Pine is gorgeous, no doubt but most WY and MT residents prefer domestic. It does not matter if you want authentic Southern Pine shipped to Wyoming or Montana, SYP Direct has you covered. Nobody beats our customer service, quality or prices- nobody.

02 Jun

Indiana

Walls and Other

08 Apr

Kentucky

Walls and Other

Kentucky quick fact: the state has more navigable miles of waterways than any other state in the union. Probably not what you think about when you think about the Bluegrass state, right? Basketball tops my list when I think about Kentucky. As an LSU alumni and Louisiana “boy”, I wonder; How many times did Kentucky beat LSU in the SEC tournament, all of them? OK, not every time but awfully close! If that doesn’t top your list, how about that little horse race they hold every year.

Kentucky Derby

Frankfort is the capital city of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, but Louisville is the largest city. Louisville is home to the Kentucky Derby, the renowned horse race held at Churchill Downs on the first Saturday in May. Dubbed “The Run for the Roses,” stemming from the blanket of roses draped over the winner. It is also known in the United States as “The Most Exciting Two Minutes in Sports” or “The Fastest Two Minutes in Sports” because of its approximate duration. The Kentucky Derby has run uninterrupted since 1875. Even with the Olympics and major professional sports leagues canceled at those points, the Derby, Preakness, and Belmont took place during the Great Depression and both World Wars.

SYP Direct & the Blue Grass state

SYP Direct depends on word of mouth, specifically referrals. Kentucky provides a perfect example of how our business has grown to cover the state. During our first two years, we only had 4 customers from the Bluegrass state, last year (2019) it was 10. And while that number ranks 20^th comparing total sales by state, almost ½ of those started with one customer. Word of mouth business is direct result of the quality and service received. An A+ rating from the BBB, confirms, we take care of our customers.

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Ownensboro Kentucky Workshop

We send so much time talking about our tongue and groove floors, walls get over-looked. In Owensboro our customer used tongue and groove on his walls, running the boards vertical, as shown above. “Here is the finished building. I built a bar and workbench (with leftovers) also. I am VERY happy with it. Thank you for all your help!” (McClarty 2020). When comparing t/g walls to widly popular Shiplap, one interlocks producing straight edges, whereas Shiplap rest on top one another.

Ship-lap or Shiplap

Buying Solid Wood Flooring? You have certain rights!

You have the right to real

First, it must be real wood, a floor not a floor cover that will be thrown away one day. Nobody calls carpet a hardwood, but it outlasts most LVT and all laminate. Solid wood, i.e., engineered by Mother Nature! – It is a shame that we even use the same word, hardwood to describe both real and fake flooring. Laminate Hardwoods, the term has no meaning. It is not wood, much less hard. Laminate, LVT and cheap (less than 4mm wear layer) engineered flooring all ends up in the same landfill.

Long boards are not a luxury

Long lengths- When did trees get so short? 95% of all prefinished hardwoods are sold as 7’ nested bundles, meaning box. The average board will be under 30”, all chopped up is what you get. Not the case with our finish to order heart pine, we run long boards up to 10’ with an average over 7’; 80% of boards are 8’ and up. In fact, we offer a version with all 12’ boards; however, the shipping and packaging becomes more expensive. Why long boards are so cool? They look like they cost a fortune because everyone else has chopped up short boards.

You have the right to the truth

You cannot refinish engineered wood with less than 4 mm wear layer, warranties are, in general worthless and nothing is waterproof except water. These are topics that, of course, generate questions; and the answers should be given in the form of true statements not marketing garbage. You will find that with each question answered, the truth becomes clear. Single use floor covers mean repeat business and that is what supports the industry. Nobody wants you to get a solid real hardwood because you will not need another one, nor will the person who moves in after you. Solid hardwood flooring increases the selling price by up to 10% because the new owners can re-finish rather than repurchase.

To answer the question do you have southern pine floors

08 Feb

Delivery Cost

Customer Bill of Rights

10 Jan

SYP in Maine

Wood Floor Shopping

So, SYP in Maine doesn’t sound right, you think that it might be a problem to find real Southern Pine floors in ME? Welcome to SYP Direct, the nationwide online pine flooring mill with an A+ rating from the BBB. Not only do we ship our unfinished Southern Pine to all 50 states (even Hawaii, 2018), we make sure every customer has support from inquiry to installation. The mild weather this year has spurred demand in New England. Most of our business occurs in the summer months. Whatever the reason, we love sending our pine to Maine and all of New England. Homeowners and builders love authentic Southern Pine, and having it delivered to the job site at an amazing price.

Maine the “Pine Tree State”?

The “Pine Tree State “recognizes the white pine tree, as an officially designated state symbol. Maine possesses over 17 million acres of forests, much of its Eastern White Pine. Also, Maine, is the northeastern most state in the U.S. Maine is known for its rocky coastline, maritime history and nature areas, like the granite and spruce islands of Acadia National Park. One of the most surprising facts about Maine is the amount of coastline in the state. Maine has 3,478 miles of coastline. This is more than California (3,427), in fact, Maine has over 5,000 miles of coast if you include all of the islands. Only Florida and Louisiana (mostly bayou) have more miles of coastline. Furthermore (Maine Facts), “Maine has 3,166 off-shore islands. Only about 1,200 Maine coast islands have an acre or more, 600 comprise 95% of the island acreage”.

Cities in ME 201

To find real Southern Pine floors in Maine, no matter what city, call us! So far in 2020, we shipped to homeowners in these cities; South Portland, Dixmont and Bristol. Each of the orders we unique, one was a massive number of stair treads, one Heart Pine and the other our #2 grade. One was a repeat customer who moved and wanted to get our floors for their new home. We love repeat customers and what a tremendous compliment not only for the quality but the overall experience of working with SYP Direct.

Shipped nationwide

Solid wood is heavy

Remember, we sell solid real wood. It is long, it is heavy and shipping it is not like ordering shoes from Amazon. The process involves milling, packing and shipping pallets over 1500 miles, all while protecting your boards. Southern Yellow Pine in Maine, is not a oxymoron. We do this like no other company, our BBB A+ rating is valuable to our company and we work very hard to keep it! What this means is that we manage every detail, no surprises, no extra fees and shortage of boards.

New England Builders

Southern Yellow Pine in Maine is not impossible, in fact we make it easy. Builders and installation professionals who understand that real wood takes time, welcome to SYP Direct. We do not take shortcuts and we do not sell to those of you that do, end of story. However, if you are a real wood pro, with or without pine experience, welcome to the best source you will ever find. As long as you have your customers best interest in mind, we can work together.

2023 Maine Southern Pine

If you live in Maine and want to buy the best Southern Pine, quality and price- you have come to the right spot. We have been blogging about SYP floors since 2016, and by we I mean me. My name is Jason and along with my wife Heather (co-founders) want welcome homeowners and pine lovers. Wide plank Heart Pine, V Groove walls, and the best #2 Knotty pine bar none.

Update for New England

Maine is not the only New England state doing business with SYP Direct. In 2021, the states that make up this area have increased year over year sales by 50%. The lumber shortage and our strong referrals in the area are both key reasons for the surge. However, the main reason is the massive amount of money we save residents compared to local options. For example, SYP Direct offers a prefinished 1 x 8 x 12′ New Heart Pine, delivered to NE for under $7.00 per square ft. Want to know more?

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