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23 Jul

Wyoming and Montana Southern Pine

Walls and Other

Two similarities in Wyoming and Montana residents, love of our Southern Pine floors and very easy to deal with as customers. To be clear, we understand the difference between Wyoming and Montana about as well as their residents understand the difference between Alabama and Tennessee but we know pine. Ask the question what is the first thing that pops into your mind when you hear WY or MT? Southerners would answer cowboys or Yellowstone. Folks from WY and MT, probably Country Music and NASCAR. As an LSU fan, Louisiana born and raised, yes, leaving out football was intentional. The differences may be subtle, however the common characteristics are easy to identify. 

Kimmerer WY

Residents from both states are laid back and easy to talk with about anything, not just cowboys. In fact, there seems to be some southern accent with some residents. Kimmerer WY 2020, “it shore is purtty”, of course he wrote this to us in hopes we would understand, very funny LM. The bunk bed photo goes along with this same customer, he is right though it is pretty. The floors are 7” Longleaf Heart Pine with Bona Natural clear high traffic, very nice. 

Love these helmets

Wyoming Cowboys logo discussed comparing WY and MT
University of Wyoming

The University of Wyoming Cowboys

Whoa, not Wyoming or Montana Cowboys rather the U of WY located Laramie and founded in 1866. If you are not familiar with their helmets you are not a college football fan, they are classic. Nothing against the Grizzly or on the helmets of the University of Montana but that Cowboy just stays with you after having played against them many years ago. One Cowboy alumni and our first builder from Wyoming and Montana, enjoys reminding me of this from time to time. 

Pioneer Log and Timber of Montana

Pioneer Log and Timber, a Montana customer we brag about, all the time. Why not? Visit the website and the fog will lift. MT log and timber, uses the type of materials we have specially milled per project requirements, both floors and walls. The obvious implication, if our company fits with PLT of Montana you should feel pretty good about our products. Yes, we confirm our implication while extending an offer to prove it. 

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Wyoming and Montana resident love rustic southern pine
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Shipping cost to WY and MT

From New Orleans to Butte Montana, 2085 miles, and those floors originate in Honduras. Alabama is closer but , yes shipping costs exist. Alabama Heart Pine grows in Alabama, any Southern Pine has shipping cost to WY and MT even if seconds from a lumber yard. However, shipping costs represent part of the mill to customer process, normally they do not connect directly. SYP Direct allows residents in Wyoming and Montana to purchase mature southern pine in long lengths without removing one of the most important characteristics, price. In other words, shipping costs to WY and Montana, not prohibitive. You can get the floor that belongs in your home forever. Yes forever, we sell the kind of pine that someone will reclaim one day making Grizzlies and Cowboys happy.

The Caribbean in Cheyenne

In March of 2018, we sent Caribbean Heart Pine to Cheyenne Wyoming. Our customer chose the 5″ rustic grade, with knots and a minimum of 85% heart pine content, aka heart content. SYP Direct shipped our first Southern Pine floors to Wyoming and Montana in 2014 but this was our first shipment of Caribbean Heart Pine, which we began offering in 2016. Rustic Caribbean Heart Pine is gorgeous, no doubt but most WY and MT residents prefer domestic. It does not matter if you want authentic Southern Pine shipped to Wyoming or Montana, SYP Direct has you covered. Nobody beats our customer service, quality or prices- nobody.

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08 Feb

Delivery Cost

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What does it cost to ship, how much is shipping and depends on how much delivery cost- all part of of every new customer orientation to SYP Direct. Today, these questions are higher up concerns of everyone including us but not to worry SYP Direct is your VP logisitcs service. We do not consider an order a sucess until after installation much less without delivery. While we cannot help with overall inflation but despite higher cost, we are still offer our customers a direct path to the best wood floors which saves them (you) money compared to any local option.

Remeber you are paying shipping on every product you buy, even in the box store and some of that stuff came from far far away.

What is the delivery cost, or how much is shipping using our custom pallets?  The delivery cost of hardwood floors depends on a number of variables including length, weight, and markup, these are the shipping portion. At SYP Direct the delivery cost and shipping portion of the order hold as much importance as the quality of the wood. Why, you ask? Because if we sell you the best pine at the best price but it arrives busted up what does it matter, you cannot use it. So, at SYP Direct we build a custom pallet for your order, we understand the importance of protecting your floor.

Delivery cost and waste factor

Marketing square foot cost and actual cost are not the same. A price must include delivery, or the place where change of ownership occurs, such as warehouse. Nor does the cost of delivery mean anything without a guarantee of coverage, with a reasonable damage and or waste factor. The price means nothing if you have to re-order or worse, fall short. Part of our A+ rating comes from never being short, not hardly ever but never. A 100% coverage guarantee assumes we (homeowner or buyer) determined a total amount needed, i.e. waste factor, normally 10%.

 

Truckload, half truck and hotshots all reduced delivery cost

Other options include truckloads (and truckload pricing) between 10-15,000 square feet. Half trucks, self explanatory, and hotshots which are dedicated over and back. Now, most homeowners do not buy truckloads. However, many have purchased a half truck, sold the excess and got dream floor for free. And of course, retailers who enjoy mixing, for example, shiplap and tongue and groove patterns. These options, along with our VIP service before during and after shipping, we lower delivery cost.

acclimation is about moisture content

Maine 2020

Advertised Cost Unfinished Floors

The advertised cost of unfinished wood flooring, solid wood, means little without several variables. If I ask a mill about a certain grade of Oak, the first question will be about lengths- without that confirmation you are not getting a clear picture of the product. Advertising today is about creating new grade or term. Even more common, box stores ‘add to’, such as select knotty #2 pine. Waste factors, ease of installation, definition of defects, in other words the fine print can mean the (real) cost of your floor to skyrocket. Cheap does not pay, find out how to finance your dream floor. 

Custom Pallets

Less than truckload is the most commonly used mode when shipping floor coverings because it allows you to save money by sharing truck capacity with other shipments. When using LTL, the pitfalls are everywhere; some of them operate like “land pirates”. If one thing goes wrong, you are paying enormous fees. We understand which carriers to use and will always find the best rates. Furthermore, we  do not add 20%, the industry standard.

Delivery Cost with long boards

The shipping portion of the delivery cost for 7’ boxes or bundles tends to be lower than 10′ and 12′ boards. To be clear, wood floors refers to ¾ solid, all the way through, real wood. Unfinished hardwood Pallets shipped direct from a mill are long and heavy. The 7’ boxes have after market changes, i.e. prefinished or bevel, meaning the “further from the blade the more you paid.” Shipping long boards is our expertise, we have certain secrets to insure you have enough wood; we tell the truth about delivery cost.

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Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an "old school" philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)

 

Our custom pallets protect your freight, while guaranteeing your delivery cost. Furthermore, they make loading and unloading much easier for the carrier. The delivery cost of your floors means nothing as a number. Without the order arriving in tact, neither price or delivery cost are important. We use pine walls and a ceiling (from usable materials)to make our custom pallets”.  Pallet walls help protect your investment from tired forklift drivers, for example.  SYP Direct has 100% coverage and satisfaction guarantee; execution of your delivery carries the same importance as delivery price.  If your floors arrive beat up, what difference does a low price make?  Customers have created some very cool items from our pallets, including bars, doors, barn doors and even a chicken coup.

Shipping nationwide bundle of Caribbean Heart Pine backside with groovesLTL or less than truckload

Less than truckload is the most commonly used mode when shipping floor coverings because it allows you to save money by sharing truck capacity with other shipments. When using LTL, the pitfalls are everywhere; some of them operate like “land pirates”. If one thing goes wrong, you are paying enormous fees. We understand which carriers to use and will always find the best rates. Furthermore, we  do not add 20%, the industry standard.

Delivery Cost with long boards

The shipping portion of the delivery cost for 7’ boxes or bundles tends to be lower than 10′ and 12′ boards. To be clear, wood floors refers to ¾ solid, all the way through, real wood. Unfinished hardwood Pallets shipped direct from a mill are long and heavy. The 7’ boxes have after market changes, i.e. prefinished or bevel, meaning the “further from the blade the more you paid.” Shipping long boards is our expertise, we have certain secrets to insure you have enough wood; we tell the truth about delivery cost.

1st step to an amazing floor
IN A HURRY- TEXT much faster 601 594 0917
Text us now 601 826 1296
Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an "old school" philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)

 

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21 May

Pioneer Log and Timber

Walls and Other

Pioneer log and timber is a custom log home and lodge builder in Montana; what a perfect place to find out how pine handles cold weather. PLT builds the the most amazing log homes you will ever see, no cookie cutters or kits. At Pioneer they are fond of saying; “while it does not take a long time to make a great log home, it does take a long time to learn how to make a home great.” Headquartered in Montana’s scenic Bitterroot Valley, the management team has over 250 years of combined experience in building log and timber frame structures. “We know all the custom homes we’ve built – we remember them all and they are still important to us.” Jay Pohley, Founder Pioneer Log and Timber

April 3rd 2020- If you are interested in a log cabin kit or talking with a project manager, give us a quick call or email. It does not matter where you live, it certainly doesn’t have to be Montana, SYP Direct can help you build it.

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Not your Grandfathers Cabin

Log “cabins” and Log homes have come a long way on the trip from woods to the suburbs. Referring to Pioneer Log and Timber structures as cabins is very misleading. Established 1976, PLT of Mt has been at the forefront of this new demand for luxury rustic log homes. Chateaus or Retreats are probably better terms, but popularity of this “style” has skyrocketed. Scott Rouleau of New York City-based J. Rouleau & Associates does marketing consulting for the log home industry. “The industry is booming, unlike the housing industry,” says Rouleau. “Log home manufacturers are getting many calls from architects. The companies I work with can’t build them fast enough—it’s amazing.”

One log at a time

Pioneer Log & Timber, each home crafted in Montana for construction anywhere in North America. And each one is custom. PLT does not sell kits, or plans. They build your home just for you, while keeping budget and timeframe in mind. Pioneer Log & Timber is one of the most selective log home and timber frame builders in North America. We select every log we use one at a time and cut each by hand. The core philosophy is to take care of the environment from which we source our logs.

 

Montana Lodge builders stresses sustainability

“Being headquartered in Montana, it’s one of our goals to make the forests sustainable. The same old logging and harvesting techniques aren’t good enough today. Those widespread legacies of environmental damage are proof of that we must do better. Tougher environmental standards exist in American forests than they do in Canada and other places. We’ve always believed in using American timber, with American craftsmen to craft and build the best log and timber homes on the planet. ” (Pioneer Log and Timber website 2019)- SYP Direct comment (March 2020); PLT of MT builds homes that will outlive the owners, plus two generations. How many fake floors or cheap materials will be torn out and replaced during that 150 years?

PLT not just in Montana

PLT of Montana has built thousands of log and timber frame structures − including resorts like Big Cedar Lodge near Bronson, MO, and Elk Creek Ranch in Colorado. Along with complete structures PLT created the log timbers for Bass Pro Shops in the United States, and in Canada.

If you thinking about a log home of any kind, Pioneer Log & Timber is the place to start. They will outline the entire project for you, from finding an architect, to the design, and even finding a local builder who can re-assemble your custom home. For more information about PLT – give them a call 406-961-3273.

Real wood floors are Green

Ask most environmentalist about using real wood for  flooring, for example, and you will get a lecture. Unfortunately, the lecture will not offer the big picture. The alternative to real wood, all of it, ends up in landfills. Real wood is reclaimed one day, only to become another floor, a much more expensive floor by the way. So before you buy into “leasing” a floor cover because it is friendly to environment, please do the research or call us because we have already done it.

Pine Flooring Delivery means shipping nationwide maintaining A+ rating

The A+ BBB rating is great, but when you understand all that we actually do, including the inherent problem of misinformation, that A+ is truly remarkable. About 2/3 of calls and emails come from folks in parts of the country that do not understand that Southern Yellow Pine is not a species.  We must deprogram some misconceptions, it is part of the process. We offer unlimited questions, answered with no agenda, i.e. all floors have the same margins. The A+ rating we carry with the BBB is because we never overlook any step in the sales process. The delivery part of this transaction is really the key to its success.  Price per square foot does not matter is; its junk, you are short boards, or they arrive busted up.  Our 100% coverage guarantee mandates that we protect the tongue on every board, that is only accomplished with our custom pallets.

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