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Box store pine floors are short and this are 14 feet long
03 May

Box Store Pine Floors

Wood Floor Shopping, Misconceptions, Misdirections and Misinformation, Our favorite Finishes

Box store pine floors are not as good as ours and they are more expensive. Let me repeat, apples to apples they way more expensive. And even their cheaper stuff is stupid expensive for what it is, or certainly what it is not. In world where laminate and hardwood are regularly used to market some floor cover, you might want to use a healthy skepticism when floor shopping. Rule number 1- or at least the question to ask when promised a lifetime transferable warranty; so forever?

My name is Jason and this is about box store pine floors

Why is this guy putting his name is the heading? Great question. The same reason you are going to see the term ‘box store pine floors’ over and over; we do not pay for advertising. Much easier said than done, if you are not on the first page its tough. So my great Do It Yourself project has been this website. I wrote every word and am responsible for every typo; but nowhere on this site will I lie or show you a picture that is not our floor and client (client proxy, i.e. builders). Welcome to SYP Direct

Box Store Pine Floors are short, by definition they are not select.

“Select” Knotty Pine and assume it means ‘the best’. No, not all. Select, by definition, indicates ‘hand selected’ during the sorting process. Only problem, it is all ‘hand sorted’ unless you are keeping defects in the grade. Lumber Liquidators does sell select pine, it was selected to be sold for pulp or thrown away, but still selected.

Select is hand selected

Select, or hand select wood floors all come from the same mill. Wait Jason, all box store pine comes from the same mill, right? Think about that for a minute- what size mill, what mill would be willing to sell size at “discount”- not in the real world. Sounds good in sales pitch, but Southern Pine Flooring mills do no business directly with any of box stores. Lumber mills, yes but that is part of the problem- read What is Southern Pine.

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Compare to Box store Pine

Box stores are great, box store pine floors are not even good compared to YOUR options.

Did you know that we can take our 12′ boards and finish them based on your specifications. Yup, finished to order. Not to be confused with prefinished box store pine floors. A factory or flat line finish is not something that becomes affordable without some volume, so sometimes smaller projects will not work, for people with budgets. In fact, you can finish your cabinets, stairs and trim, all in the same place.

3/4 x 6 7/8 (1 x 8) Mill Run Heart Pine- What is Mill Run?

Our Mill Run Heart Pine, might also be seen in our photos as Character Grade which we had to change a few years back because it is not character grade pine. It is Heart Pine, in 12′ boards sorting with same concept as Euro Character White Oak, we took out the Euro of course. However, Character Pine is now being used to define tavern and cabin grade which a finish. My cousin Bub would call that lipstick on a pig.

Box store pine floors priced over $6.00 check these out

All of these floors were less than than anything you find shopping through box store pine floors. Long boards- Amazing Character.

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The real milk paint coat 1 of 2 after sanding
Compare these 12′ boards to box store pine

 

In conclusion, we love Home Depot and Lowes- but their prefinished solid pine floors are a mass produced product.

Caveat’ to that statement, we need lead time and you need to be doing more than one room. I wish it were different but this process is not off the shelf, custom is the proper description. Luxury flooring that beats box store pine prices, no kidding. Not to mention we can finish wide planks and 12′ boards, ask them that at lumber liquidators or whatever they call themselves now. Mill Run Heart Pine, finished clear or tint with topcoat, plus aluminum oxide UV protection- the price depends upon volume, call us now. 888 286 2057 or fill out the contact form.

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Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an “old school” philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)
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Versus Clover Lea Pine

Misconceptions, Misdirections and Misinformation, Wood Floor Shopping

The big secret in the flooring industry? The chemicals used in manufacturing laminate are dangerous and they are the fastest growing component of our landfills. ’s difficult to quantify what chemicals, will leach from laminates once they hit the landfill. Not to mention the emissions from incineration.  To put it simply, this stuff doesn’t decompose, because of all the chemicals and glues, the material never breaks down organically.

Comparing Lumber Liquidators Clover Lea pine to Southern Yellow Longleaf floors is not apples to apples at any point except price. Clover Lea pine floors are not a grade, they are a brand. The pictures on their website show closeups of vertical grain in varied widths, no knots. Is that what they are selling? Caveat’ Emptor, a very old phrase which indicates buyer beware. Do more research than what that “person” , flooring is an investment for homeowners. Do your due diligence, spend as much time as you would picking a financial advisor or a mutual fund.

R.L. Colston unfinished 3/4 solid southern pine $3.29 per square foot, no grade just an up close shot of vertical grain with no knots. The thought of explaining how grossly misleading and why seems irrelevant, but we press on. $3.29 for what exactly? The information, limited but the obvious, however the reason might surprise you. Lumber Liquidators wants to sell you the floors with warranties which mean commissions, quotas and kickbacks. Confused? Did you ever buy a new car, it is that guy explaining gap insurance or undercoating, everywhere you look. Why buy that unfinished pine when you can buy LVT for $2.99, right?

Update September 14 2020 Lumber Prices 

Clover Lea Prices

The best pine flooring prices guaranteed! SYP Direct will match or beat any (apples to apples) competitors price. How can we be so sure? We are the online pine flooring mill and your local source no matter your zip code. Key in this promise is the apples to apples terminology. To be clear, we are not being slick or trying to mislead you, not at all. Simply put, we have no competition that has our quality and our prices. Lumber liquidators by definition sells over stocks and defects. They are a public company with shareholders and directors all of which demand growth year over year. All of that squeezed from unfinished Southern Pine, versus a mill direct made to offer floor?

 

 

The difference in Clover Lea and SYP Direct

What’s the difference between a shirt at Walmart versus a custom one, made to order. Everything is different, the quality, the density, the character, the hardness (for sure) and of course the lengths. Clover Lea is bi product of multiple (2 x 4’s) lumber mills, the scraps, shorts and defects. SYP Direct does not sell scraps. We mill your floor to order, shipping direct from the mill floor. Comparing our Southern Pine to Lumber Liquidators, like dog food and top shelf filet mignon. 

Alabama Pine

Alabama is like adding Swiss to watch or Louisiana to gumbo. Unfortunately, the term heart pine is far too often to describe flooring that does not meet heart pine standards. Only about 5% of total pine production in the United States is Longleaf pine. Longleaf pine grows much slower and therefore is not conducive the fast-growing pine plantations that produce pine for building materials. For example, Florida and MS Gulf coast pine look similar, but have nowhere near the Janka rating of their northern cousin in Alabama.

Advertising by box stores

How can the layman  compare pine floors? Length, type of knots, weight, age, species etc. would do the trick, but we live in the real world.  Instead, today a Google search for best pine floors sends you Clover Lea or some other box store mass marketed product. Buyers many times have no clue the difference between the quality (see above) differences between “ours and theirs”, it is substantial to say the least.

 

Please send us an email. If you need a call back, ask us and guess what? We actually call you back and handle your questions, one by one.
IN A HURRY- TEXT much faster 601 594 0917
Text us now 601 826 1296
Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an "old school" philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)
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