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Wood Flooring Shipping Pallet
22 Jun

Delivery and Shipping

Wood Floor Shopping, Customer Bill of Rights

No Surprises during delivery

The best way to have a good shipping experience starts with no surprises. Gate codes, overhead powerlines, gravel road, bridges; no detail is too small. Why? Because commercial shipping companies charge for everything. If there is some type of last-minute change or “surprises” they can abort the delivery and take your pallet back to the terminal. Does not sound too bad until you get the re-delivery charge. Think of LTL carriers as ‘land-pirates,’ they can, if they so choose, hold your floors for ransom.  

Long & Heavy

Buying flooring online means custom crates and pallets
Crated with usable boards

“Waste factors are 10%, period. Over that amount is a tavern or ‘unusable grade’.

The good news

Only about 5% of deliveries have any type of issue because our team addresses them upfront. After 10 years we navigate all of it for you, until the delivery (residence). You become the boss, so we impower you to handle the role if necessary. And more importantly, our A+ BBB rating tells you what you need to know about SYP Direct. Homeowners, we are your advocate and can be trusted to make things right 100% of the time.  

View of back grooves

Shipping nationwide bundle of Caribbean Heart Pine backside with grooves
wide plank Heart Pine back view

Current Lead Times Southern Pine

In GENERAL, we run 10- 14 days on our Clear, Heart and #2 or better flooring. We have dedicated logistics partner who will speak with you prior to shipping if there are any issues to resolve. We track your floor from pick up to destination insuring you have plenty of time to prepare for your delivery or arrange your pickup.

“The price per square foot means nothing if installation takes twice as long.”

Document damages

Shippers are not on our team. Note any damages, no matter how small, on that release they have you sign. This must be done at delivery – you cannot call the terminal later & say you found damage. Documenting damages on the release form allows you to take delivery, then access any damages. Once you open it up – if there is real damage, we can get a detailed inventory & file an official claim, if you document the damages on the release.  

Shippers want to make money and they have your stuff

Be there when the floors arrive, they do not hang around.  The driver is not going to wait and certainly will not off-load your floors. Herein lies the difficulty with residential delivery, the catch if you will. SYP Direct floors are long, and they are heavy, so lift-gates are hardly ever an option. In plain language, the floors must be off-loaded by (your) hand and or your equipment.  

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Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an "old school" philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)
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SYP Direct White Oak flooring prices
19 Nov

White Oak Prices

Wood Floor Shopping

Yes, SYP Direct offers hardwoods, such as Northern White Oak. Has anyone told you White Oak prices have gone up because of the popularity of Whiskey? “We’re starting to see the impact [the bourbon craze] is having on the white oak industry,” says Jeremy Scherf, a service forester with the Ohio Department of Natural Resources. “If we don’t step forward now and start improving how we manage our white oaks, we could be looking at a shortfall.” (American Forest Foundation).  What a huge public relations move, blaming whiskey barrels for a “shortage” of White Oak, which there is not. Do not be fooled.

Hardwood flooring grades

Hardwood flooring is graded based on the face surface, specifically its appearance. The most common grades of domestic hardwood wood flooring are; clear (c & btr), select (s & btr), # 1 common, # 2 common and a variety of proprietary grades. Yes, proprietary, as in they make it up. Now, this is not always a bad thing, not at all. However, many times these creations are about raising the price, i.e. natural rustic = #2 common everywhere else.

Character or Contractor grade

Our favorite White Oak grade is Character (Contractor)  which blends #1 and #2 common. Why, create another grade? In the case of Character White Oak, at this mill, it reduces part of the sorting process, so you get longer boards that may require some work here and there, perfect for a contractor. 

Long Length White Oak

SYP Direct offers unfinished White Oak in long length boards, not shorts or micro shorts. White Oak pricing from the mill combines grade and length, i.e. character grades.  Understanding the importance of length to grade is key. Remember, grade means nothing if a board has been altered since mill, which they have unless you are buying direct. How do you? Compare apples to apples, price per square foot is but one component of value. For example are 10′ boards worth more than 3′, or 5′? Of course they are, now what about 8-10 and 12’s, in wide planks? Our prefinished floors are taken from raw materials to finished floor, keeping the lengths in tact.

Hardwood Flooring from SYP Direct

SYP Direct is more than just pine; in fact it might surprise you to know that today 50% of our business is ‘not unfinished pine. Buying hardwood floors from SYP Direct is literally broker pricing for consumers. Why would anyone buy hardwood floors such as White Oak from a company named Southern Yellow Pine Direct? Simple, we remove the people that either take a commission or shorten your boards. “Farther from the blade, the more you paid”, true 100% of the time. The best White Oak prices are always found at the mill in long lengths. We allow (end-users) homeowners to buy direct from the mill floor. We don’t eliminate the middleman, we take it tree to delivery meaning we eliminate several of them.

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Natural Finished Caribbean Heart Pine
25 Jul

Versus Clover Lea Pine

Misconceptions, Misdirections and Misinformation, Wood Floor Shopping

The big secret in the flooring industry? The chemicals used in manufacturing laminate are dangerous and they are the fastest growing component of our landfills. ’s difficult to quantify what chemicals, will leach from laminates once they hit the landfill. Not to mention the emissions from incineration.  To put it simply, this stuff doesn’t decompose, because of all the chemicals and glues, the material never breaks down organically.

Comparing Lumber Liquidators Clover Lea pine to Southern Yellow Longleaf floors is not apples to apples at any point except price. Clover Lea pine floors are not a grade, they are a brand. The pictures on their website show closeups of vertical grain in varied widths, no knots. Is that what they are selling? Caveat’ Emptor, a very old phrase which indicates buyer beware. Do more research than what that “person” , flooring is an investment for homeowners. Do your due diligence, spend as much time as you would picking a financial advisor or a mutual fund.

R.L. Colston unfinished 3/4 solid southern pine $3.29 per square foot, no grade just an up close shot of vertical grain with no knots. The thought of explaining how grossly misleading and why seems irrelevant, but we press on. $3.29 for what exactly? The information, limited but the obvious, however the reason might surprise you. Lumber Liquidators wants to sell you the floors with warranties which mean commissions, quotas and kickbacks. Confused? Did you ever buy a new car, it is that guy explaining gap insurance or undercoating, everywhere you look. Why buy that unfinished pine when you can buy LVT for $2.99, right?

Update September 14 2020 Lumber Prices 

Clover Lea Prices

The best pine flooring prices guaranteed! SYP Direct will match or beat any (apples to apples) competitors price. How can we be so sure? We are the online pine flooring mill and your local source no matter your zip code. Key in this promise is the apples to apples terminology. To be clear, we are not being slick or trying to mislead you, not at all. Simply put, we have no competition that has our quality and our prices. Lumber liquidators by definition sells over stocks and defects. They are a public company with shareholders and directors all of which demand growth year over year. All of that squeezed from unfinished Southern Pine, versus a mill direct made to offer floor?

 

 

The difference in Clover Lea and SYP Direct

What’s the difference between a shirt at Walmart versus a custom one, made to order. Everything is different, the quality, the density, the character, the hardness (for sure) and of course the lengths. Clover Lea is bi product of multiple (2 x 4’s) lumber mills, the scraps, shorts and defects. SYP Direct does not sell scraps. We mill your floor to order, shipping direct from the mill floor. Comparing our Southern Pine to Lumber Liquidators, like dog food and top shelf filet mignon. 

Alabama Pine

Alabama is like adding Swiss to watch or Louisiana to gumbo. Unfortunately, the term heart pine is far too often to describe flooring that does not meet heart pine standards. Only about 5% of total pine production in the United States is Longleaf pine. Longleaf pine grows much slower and therefore is not conducive the fast-growing pine plantations that produce pine for building materials. For example, Florida and MS Gulf coast pine look similar, but have nowhere near the Janka rating of their northern cousin in Alabama.

Advertising by box stores

How can the layman  compare pine floors? Length, type of knots, weight, age, species etc. would do the trick, but we live in the real world.  Instead, today a Google search for best pine floors sends you Clover Lea or some other box store mass marketed product. Buyers many times have no clue the difference between the quality (see above) differences between “ours and theirs”, it is substantial to say the least.

 

Please send us an email. If you need a call back, ask us and guess what? We actually call you back and handle your questions, one by one.
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Southern Yellow Pine Direct offer homeowners the reliability of an A+ rated BBB company; the best quality, pricing and service bar none. We operate under an "old school" philosophy that the customer is always right. We make sure you are just that by educating and dispelling myths about Southern Pine and Heart Pine flooring.
Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)
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1x10x12 wide plank new heart pine flooring
05 Jun

Prefinished Heart Pine

Heart Pine, Our favorite Finishes

Prefinished Heart Pine- (July 20 2021) SYP Direct has 3600 square feet of 1 x 8 x 12′ New Heart Pine with our finish partner in North Carolina. We are simply waiting for the next customer to tell us how they want to finish their new Prefinished Heart Pine floor! We discuss some of your finish options below, but these are by no means all we offer. Along with Bona and Monocoat, SYP offers 12 standard colors. Choose weather to have ends matched or leave them straight, no bevel..no problem. Do not wait, first come first serve.

Southern Yellow Pine Direct offers small batch Prefinished Heart Pine- unique business model designed for homeowners. Inventory, of our own floors is rare, we finish to order. However, our production schedule means lead times are max 3 weeks unless choosing between all the options takes longer than expected.

What is the best pine finish?

Normally Prefinished Heart Pine indicates 3 1/4 or 5 1/8 widths, short lengths and rarely is the best pine finish used. Why? Money of course! Manufactures of prefinished pine use truckload scraps, or shorts to create the standard 1-7′ lengths, with average board around 18″ long. At SYP Direct we believe you deserve better, including the best pine finish on top of highest quality floors. We are going to take a look at three of our favorites, Bona, Monocoat, Minwax and Woca.

Minwax

The Minwax story dates back to 1904. Founder Arthur Harrison developed a product designed to keep moisture out of buildings. It was not until 1940 that Minwax became a product for Do It Yourself homeowners. ” The product itself was redesigned and improved for homeowner use, and the wax in the finish was replaced by varnish gums, making the new Wood Finish™ the first modern “quick-drying” product.”

Minwax in our shop

At SYP Direct we have been a long time user of Minwax products. For example, attempting to match an old floor or replicate one a from customer photo, i.e. a magazine. Minwax is easy to work with, in fact, we use it all the time in our shop. Remember,  be sure and precondition the sample before you apply any stain. This applies to any finish not just Minwax, furthermore pre-stain treatment prevents splotching. The pictures below, from our  shop, some are rougher than others; remember we are usually just trying to match a floor.

5" Caribbean Heart Pine

Caribbean Heart Pine with Monocoat Pure finish
Moncoat "Pure"

1x8 New Heart Pine

Bona Natural finish on heart pine
Bona with UV finish

Bona High Traffic Natural

Bona High Traffic is the ideal finish for the pine in the most demanding environments.  These include restaurants, hotel lobbies, airports and office reception areas. Professionals and builders love Bona for its durability, and as natural substitute for traditional oil and wax wood floor treatments. Bona offers both site finish products and industrial finishes which are applied using commercial UV process.

Bona industrial coatings  are at the forefront of the new wave of floor treatments. High traffic protection is the combination of deep penetrating oils and UV top coats. Our  7″ Wide plank prefinished Heart Pine are in all 10′ and 12′ lengths. Let me repeat, 7″ wide Heart Pine with a Bona Finish in all 10’s and 12’s. Bayou Rustics is manufacturer of small batch finished Heart Pine Flooring.

Monocoat by Rubio

Monocoat is plant based finish that adheres at first contact with the microns of your wood floor. This molecular bonding becomes part of the floor like no other finish.  Not only is a second coat not required, the finished wood will not accept one. Monocoat by Rubio is an all-natural plant-based oil finish for wood flooring.  VOC-free and 100% non-toxic, Monocoat is easy to use and safe. All Rubio finishes are easy to maintain including repairs, which are a breeze. For more on our prefinished floors using Monocoat by Rubio contact us ASAP.

 Woca Finishes

WOCA Industrial is a specially formulated stain designed for pre-treatment of UV- and oiled floors. The reactive stains from WOCA are a perfect way to antique a Heart Pine floor, for example. WOCA Color Oils, contains fine pigments in nine different colors, however, there are endless color options.  For instance, most DIY can create custom colors simply by mixing the oils. Prefinished Heart Pine using WOCA Color Oils look amazing, again great for antiquing.

About our company

SYP Direct, or Southern Yellow Pine Direct sells newly cut, not reclaimed, heart pine and rustic longleaf pine flooring.  Furthermore, SYP Direct simplifies the pine flooring market. In fact, we spend time with almost every customer discussing common misconceptions and misinformation.  An easy way to understand the big picture; pine should be sold just like wine, age, species (grapes) and location define the final product, and therefore price. Solid wood floors, pine or hardwoods, constitutes and investment that will outlive your house, i.e. reclaimed one day.

 

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Remember we are a mill to order manufacturer of unfinished and prefinished Southern Pine, including our speciality Heart Pine. Our lead times are normally about two weeks, with Hardwoods and Imports the lead times vary and that is an understatement. 2 days -2 months has bee the answer since COVID. But things are imporving, as White Oak prices continue to fall. (Jason Howard 9/9/2022)
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